Hannah Fordice has worked victim advocacy from nearly every angle — a domestic violence crisis line, victim witness coordination in the courts, and training faith communities on intimate partner violence. She joins Robert to talk about who's cut out for advocacy work and who isn't, the boundaries that keep advocates from burning out, and why domestic violence cases are so often under-investigated and under-prosecuted. Also: savior complexes, nonprofit board dysfunction, and what it's like to be an advocate married to a cop.