Conversations from the field
Coursing Justice Podcast
Candid conversations with investigators, prosecutors, and MDT professionals about the cases that shaped them and the lessons they carry into their work.
Coursing Justice brings together current and former law enforcement officers, prosecutors, attorneys, child advocacy professionals, and multidisciplinary team members for candid conversations about justice and child protection. Hosted by former prosecutor Robert Peters, each season looks at the field through a different lens, with practical insight from the people doing the work.
Halloween Episode: Live from Hero’s Haven CAC
Robert is joined by returning guest Kathleen Nolan and Patty Saunders, executive director of Hero’s Haven Child Advocacy Center, for a bonus Halloween episode recorded in the basement below Hero’s Haven in Clarksburg, West Virginia. The building has been a bank, a hotel, and possibly a makeshift hospital, and its staff say not everyone checked out. Pull up a chair for Stan and Dan, an elevator that only goes to the basement, a rental car with phantom backseat passengers, and a hotel door that kept pounding with no one on the other side. Also: fake blood that sent a new maintenance man to the police, and why a world without CACs is the scariest story of all.
Emergency Episode: Anderegg, Ashcroft & AI CSAM (with Debbie Garner)
Debbie Garner spent eight years as Special Agent in Charge of the GBI's Child Exploitation and Computer Crimes Unit and Georgia ICAC Task Force commander, overseeing 2,500+ arrests. In this emergency episode, she joins Robert to unpack the Seventh Circuit's Anderegg decision, holding that private, in-home possession of AI-generated CSAM is protected by the First Amendment, a holding narrower and more fraught than the headlines suggest. They trace the doctrine through Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition and New York v. Ferber, break down why the "market substitute" theory misreads offender psychology, and cover evidence that CSAM has entered AI training data itself. Also: an AI-generated Dr. Seuss send-up of Ashcroft, a defense of the "nerd cop," and a closing Lord of the Rings quote.